Westboro Babtist Church? Even Crazy People have Rights!


After the bombing of the Boston Marathon I became aware of the Westboro Baptist

Even Crazy people have the right to FREE SPEECH.

Even Crazy people have the right to FREE SPEECH.

Church, in Topeka Kansas, which is not, as far as I have read, connected to any real church, Baptist or otherwise.

The church was started in, or around, 1955, and probably began spewing it’s hate and ignorance soon after.  The group seems to be under the spittle drenched command of a Fred Phelps who’s message of “GOD hates FAGS” shows a really poor Christian message and a certain amount of “poor white trash” intellect.  You can see them at their  website www.godhatesfags.com.  It is kind of like going to the ZOO and watching the animals sniff each others buts.  So who are they, and what is their message?

Who they are seems to be the family of this Fred Phelps and may only be about 50 people strange.  In that way they are insignificant.  Their message of hate is where they become important.  Yes they have a right to free speech, and yes their speech says a lot about them..  Lets look at some of it..  “GOD hates FAGS”.  On the face of it you might think that is just a statement of fact….

So lets look at the words…  Take GOD…  You might assume that they are talking about a specific GOD, as in “The One True God” but, since different religions have different Gods you might wonder of they are talking about Set, Zeus, or Jehovah.  I am not sure at this point…  because what do they mean by “hates”?  Is this “hates” as in they displease him, or upsets him, or are they talking about a real hate here where he wants to rub therm out of existence?  To me it seems they are making “judgements” of their own.  Are they not worried that their God might get upset that they are taking one of his rights, as in “judge not lest ye be judged”?  It is obvious that they are NOT talking about a Loving God who allows “free will” in order to let humans decide which direction they will follow and wants people to do what is RIGHT.  Personally I would not see myself lining up behind their god.

Then, of course, they use the term “FAG”…  Which is a provocation, as in “provocative speech and gesture”, which would tend to indicate a limited vocabulary..  I might not be one of the sharpest tools in the toolbox but, at least I can use words, other than slang, to get my message across.  For example, I might have said “JAHOVAH DISAPPROVES OF HOMOSEXUALS“…  In reality I would only go as far as to say that he does not approve of Homosexuals, Gays or Same Sex for you people over there on the left.

My belief, and what I have been taught, is that a persons religious values and beliefs are personal.  While it is perfectly with in each persons rights, both religious and civil, to act as Witnesses  for their beliefs it is beyond their rights, Christian wise, to make hatred laden judgements against people who do not share their beliefs.  If you do not like Gays it is within your rights to not associate with them, it is NOT within your rights to usurp the judgement of Jehovah, that is his right to make these Judgements.

Now, lets get to their message about Thank God for” the bombs, or the shooters, or whatever…  If any God were to do what the Westboro Baptist Church had said and used indiscriminate mass murder to get his message across this would not be a God of love but, one of HATE and so not worth worshiping….  These people believe that God, whichever one they mean, is using these people, bombers or shooters, to punish the United States because a portion of out population wants to let Homosexuals/Gays/Same Sex marry.  This is stupid.  Not everyone agrees that the Institution of Marriage includes two people of the same sex.  It has been said that our “Freedom of Religion” can also be construed as our “Freedom From Religion” and that the Untied States has separation of church and state so that we will not have the kind of religious law that the first settlers came over here to get away from.  Our law are supposed to be about what is good for Society and NOT about the Church…  Do some of our law fit under both categories?  Yes.  If the founding fathers had wanted to make Religious law they might have codified the “10 Commandments” rather than the “Bill of Rights”.

If Jehovah had wanted use these killers to make a clear statement about HIS hatred wouldn’t he have used them at a “Gay Pride Day” event?  Why would he attack athletes?

Wouldn’t the death of our soldiers overseas more likely say that Muslims are evil rather  than that the country that uses the motto “In God We Trust” is evil?

My point is simple…  The God that the Westboro Babtist Church glorifies is a god of hate, and not one of Love.  For those of you who do not believe in any gods, it is simple, they are just a bunch of lunatics, for those who do believe in a GOD you can make up your own mind about these people..

I can’t really imagine a world, such as ours, that came into existence by just chance, so I would prefer to believe in one who either Loves us, or doesn’t care but, I would NOT like to believe in one who preaches HATE…  so I believe that these people, who seem to indicate that indiscriminate murder is an act of god are crazy and that brings me to the main thrust of my article……  Even crazy people of “Freedom of Speech”.

Thanks

That Joe Guy.

A Nation of Laws.


Logo for the United States National Do Not Cal...

Logo for the United States National Do Not Call Registry. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

I am sure you have heard this term before..

The question is : just what does it mean..  Sure we have laws that govern almost everything we do.  There are laws that cover how we interact with each other, how we drive, and even laws that govern what businesses can do in pursuit of profit..

So, why do we have laws?  Simple.  In order to have a stable society there must be rules to govern conduct…  We have laws against murder, theft, certain types of lies, though that does not seem to cover politicians, and how we drive….

It seems that anytime there is some kind of even some politician will try to pass a law against it…  Just to give you an example..  I was listening to the radio the other day and the announcer was talking about some Florida State representative who wanted to put forth a bill that if you are diving in the left lane of the road and going more than, say 5 MPH under the speed limit you could get fined…  I ask  you this : where has he been?  There is already a Florida Statute that says if you are the slow traffic, not matter what your speed, and you are still holding up traffic you must get into the right lane…  It is called the “Anti-Road Rage Act”, or something similar..  So can we say “redundant”?

Now that I may, or may not, have your interest.  Just what is todays rant about?

Well, today is about the “Do Not Call Registry”…  There is the Federal DNC Registry and most states have one..  So what does it do?  Theoretically it tells telemarketers that you DO NOT want to hear from there…  The reality is that the law has a number of loopholes it it…  Charity groups, political groups, and surveys can still annoy you.  Of course they might consider that if you put yourself on a Do Not Call list you might not have anything to do with people rude enough to still call….  This is similar to putting up a “NO TRESPASS”  sign on your front yard, and the salesman can’t understand why you chase him off, after all he has a solicitation license.

If everyone obeyed the law we would have a bunch of empty jail around the country.  So for the most part we have people who are responsible for enforcing these laws.  For the National Do Not Call list the responsible party is the Federal Trade Commission…  I suppose they do something along those lines but, just what I do not know…

If you get a lot of, or just some, robo calls you can go to the web page whocalled.us and find out, maybe, who the phone number belongs to..

Today I got a call, on my pre-pay cell phone, from a number 484-589-5591 saying that if I had used Yaz, or Yazim, or something like it, that I might be part of a class action lawsuit..  From going to the whocalled.us website I found that the number probably belongs to something called the R2J2 Company.

If I want to have dealing with anyone, especially if it is going to cost me money, I will call them.  I don’t want some moron calling me so I can tell them that I am on the Do Not Call list, and even if I had a use for them I would not deal with them for that reason alone..

At one time I asked around to see if there was a way to forward these annoying calls to a 976 number so that they would get stuck with the charge but, so far I have not been able to find a way to do it…

The politicians won’t help..  These people are probably donors to their campaigns…

Maybe we could all call this number and let them know we don’t want to hear from therm..

Thanks,

That Joe Guy.

 

Is He for REAL? Is this Idenity Theft? I know it is spam…


I got another of those E-mail that are supposed to have been sent by my brother..  The first clue that it was NOT from him is that it was not in my Friends and Family folder in Incredimail…  This folder is NOT sorted by who they say they are but by the E-mail address so, if the E-mail address is different it just lays in the Inbox

Moving the mouse curser over the senders name revealed the address coop@betterme.org.  The next thing is he used my full first name, which my brother does NOT use…  The web address has a domain of .ru which would appear to be in Russia and was pushed some kind of weight loss system by excercise.com…  Looking up the e-mail address gave me the name Michael O. “Coop” Cooper.whose website says he is helping business owners increase their business, and so forth..

Other than for the use of this article I would have NO USE for him or his site…  for the simple reason that as soon as I looked at the e-mail I knew that someone had just LIED to me…  Maybe it is honest…  Maybe the person who sent it to me happens to have the same name as by brother, then again I think it is more likely that this is a scam and the only way they can attract  people’s attention is to LIE to them about who they are..

So, let us all do this…  If you get an e-mail fron a fried that looks suspicious run the cursor over the sent name and see if the e-mail address is one you know.  If it isn’t, then just delete it.  Who wants to risk doing any kind of dealing with someone who starts out by being dishonest…

Thank,

That Joe Guy.

The War on Drugs, Are We Winning?


Medical Cannabis Growing Operation in Oakland,...

Medical Cannabis Growing Operation in Oakland, California (Photo credit: Rusty Blazenhoff)

The War on Drugs

The War on Drugs (Photo credit: Jason Verwey)

If Walter Cronkite were still alive, and reporting, he would probably give the same pronouncement about the “War On Drugs” that he did about the “War in Vietnam“.

“The War is Lost”.

I am not going to got, as of this moment, into the discussion of harder drugs such as opium, not the perfume, cocaine, or heroin, at this time…  I am planning to rant on about marijuana and the “War” against it….

Given that cannabis has been around since about 3000BC, only been outlawed since the early 1900, and the War was declared in just the last 50 years, or so,  you might say that there had not really been enough time for the War to take effect…  Maybe that is the reason that we have not been able to stop the manufacture, distribution, and use of this terrible drug, or medical wonder..  it all depends on who you talk to..  The group NORMAL will tell you that it is the third most used recreational drug, behind alcohol and tobacco, and that it has wonderful properties for medical use….  The National Ins. for Drug Abuse, part of the National Inst. for Health, will tell you that it is a terrible drug with benefits that are not worth the dangers it posses.

medical marijuana is proscribed for a number of medical problems, and is supposed to be useful with pain relief, increasing appetites, decreasing nausea, and other types of symptoms..  Many people see its uses as good and believe that it would be best, to at least, pass laws allowing the use for medical purposes.  Others see this as evidence that it should be legalized…

Over the years marijuana has been demonized in the press…  Just look at those old movies, such as “Reefer Madness“ , that portray even casual use as leading to homicidal madness.  That particular move became a Cult Clasic in propaganda, and can still be viewes on some of the old movies sites..

When you try to decie good or bad remember that you should look at the aim of the people who put out the reports..  Normal, you can guess, is interested in ending the prohibition.  The NIDA is interested in keeping the prohibition.  The Feds and local  Law Enforcement spend millions to enforce laws that allow them to confiscate property used in these crimes…..

Some years ago the Manatee County Sheriff Office’s Delta Team, thier special drig interdiction team, was found to have planted drugs in people cars so that the vehicles could be confiscated and used by the team..  At least one woman was sent to jail after she was framed and her fancy car confiscated…

The War on Drugs goes on, and the flow of marijuana does as well…

What are the effects of marijuana use…  Price is hight because it is illegal.  That prompts people to get into the trade..  The Cartels, who smuggle it along with other drugs, either pay off croooked cops, or kill the honest ones who get in their way, then smuggle it into this country.  The drugs are then sold to gangs who sell it in poorer neighborhoods to people who can not really afford the high price that comes with the drugs…  Namely the gangs who kill people who get in their way, and/or pay off the people who are supposed to protect the public from just this kind of crime..

The kind of financial inducements that this trade can offer is often more than some underpaid officers can resist, while others, who believe in their jobs are sometimes killed for their efforts.

When the government, DEA, FBI, or NIDA, tell me that the so called positive effect of marijuana are not worth the damage they do, I tend to wonder if the prohibition against this drugs is worth all the money that is thrown at useless enforcement, the death of honerable law enforcement officers, or the killing of people who do not want the gangs selling on their street..  Is all that money worth making rich people out of trash?

Is all the pain and corruption worth it just to protect someone who is stupid enough to throw their life away on drugs?

Why don’t we just legalize it and take away all the money that just feeds the cycle of violence..  We can’t save everybody, we can only help people who want to help themselves…  We could spend some of those millions of dollars, now used trying to stop the tide of marijuana imports, on those people we can help, and maybe we could get some tax money out of the people who still want to use it..

We don’t have to feed crime, in order to protect those with more money than brains…

There is always talk about “victims of crime”.  The victims here are not the users.  The victims here are the families of the users, the people who find their officers are being seduced by the money they can get, from protecting the criminals, and the people, as well as REAL Law enforcement Officers, who are killed by the drug trade…

The War on Drugs is lost, and was never really worth fighting in the first place…  Marijuana may damage the brains of the users but, as far as I am concerned there was already brain damage when they started to use it in the first place…  and if there is a useful purpose for this drug maybe the legalization would do some good for the sick, and save money spent in useless efforts..

Gay Marriage, is it normal?


Marriage March 2013

Marriage March 2013 (Photo credit: American Life League)

No..  For thousands of years marriage had been defined as between a man and a woman…  and sexual conduct between person’s of the same sex was viewed as a “perversion” with practitioners of same being considered “perverts”.

Most state laws, even those not related to marriage, are based on “common law” which is a sort of unwritten law.  These unwritten laws were adopted over the years as a way to keep order in a society.  While many of these laws would fall in line with the “10 Commandments” the reason had more to do with the keeping of order, rather than a religious proscription..  This is why many none Christian countries had laws similar to those in Christian countries, as society understood that certain acts would conflict with the common good, and order, of a properly working society.  Murder, robbery, rape, theft, and things such as libel were know to creat disorder and were therefore prohibited.  The family, being important to the structure of society, was proscribed as being between a man and a woman, with added prohibitions against such things as being married to more than one spouse, marriage to certain blood relatives, and being married to a spouse under a certain age.  As for the last two the degree of prohibition varied by area.

In the United States there are a number of law that prohibit the practice of sodomy, which would seem to invalidate homosexual marriage, as well as incest, which had resulted in that prohibition.

The United States Supreme Court seems to be about to decide if the marriage of homosexuals in a constitutional right, or not.  Not being a constitutional scholar I don’t see the connection but, I can see the possibility of them striking down the bans against the marriage of homosexuals, which leads me to wonder how long it will be before they also strike down the other prohibitions.

A lot of the conversation has to do with what people think about homosexuals,  Are they really a perversion that society must be protected against?  I don’t know though I would have to go with the idea that they are not the norm, and to allow them to marry would help to diminish the concept, and purpose, of marriage.

I am reminded of an old episode of the TV show  ”West Wing” where several White House staffer were holding a discussion with several mid range military offices on what the President stance on this subject of ”Gays” in the military would be. At one point one of the staffers, makes that statement that “the President, as Commander n Chief of the Armed Forces can say that they can stay, and that is “it”".  The Military staffer points out that the Uniform Code of Military Justice still prohibits sodomy and that since that is a law passed by congress it doesn’t really matter what the President says, it is still illegal conduct.  The UCMJ also prohibits adultery.

Could the Supreme Court decide in favor of homosexual/Gay marriage?  Yes, it is possible.  What the constitution says is often a reflection of the Justices views and might have little to do with what the Constitution says.  Look at Justice  Sotomayor who made the statement during her confirmation hearings, which she later took back, that she would bring her “hispanic viewpoint” to the Supreme Court.  This is a sure indicator that she considers her viewpoint to be more important than what the Constitution actually says…  and she has voted with the Liberal block ever since…  All the Justices do is make the Constitution say what they want it to.  So the question is : are there enough Justices on the Supreme Court who understand that society, and the institution of marriage, must have a stable framework, or are there enough Justices who feel that marriage is just another legally recognized relationship that can be molded to fit their view?

We will just have to find out.

Thanks,

That Joe Guy.