I got another of those E-mail that are supposed to have been sent by my brother.. The first clue that it was NOT from him is that it was not in my Friends and Family folder in Incredimail… This folder is NOT sorted by who they say they are but by the E-mail address so, if the E-mail address is different it just lays in the Inbox…
Moving the mouse curser over the senders name revealed the address email@example.com. The next thing is he used my full first name, which my brother does NOT use… The web address has a domain of .ru which would appear to be in Russia and was pushed some kind of weight loss system by excercise.com… Looking up the e-mail address gave me the name Michael O. “Coop” Cooper.whose website says he is helping business owners increase their business, and so forth..
Other than for the use of this article I would have NO USE for him or his site… for the simple reason that as soon as I looked at the e-mail I knew that someone had just LIED to me… Maybe it is honest… Maybe the person who sent it to me happens to have the same name as by brother, then again I think it is more likely that this is a scam and the only way they can attract people’s attention is to LIE to them about who they are..
So, let us all do this… If you get an e-mail fron a fried that looks suspicious run the cursor over the sent name and see if the e-mail address is one you know. If it isn’t, then just delete it. Who wants to risk doing any kind of dealing with someone who starts out by being dishonest…
It has been a while since I last put my 2 cents in on the subject of Scammers. I think the last one I did had to do with an incident where we were trying to purchase a Motorhome… If you are curious, it should still be in the archives under spammers.
One of the main things that I have learned is that Scam, any Scam, is like a movie. Not that you can watch a Scam but, because it is a rehash of something that has already been done, which explains why there are so many re-makes of previous movies. No, what they do is update the scam to modern technology.. A good example of his is the Pyramid scheme. In the old days you would get a letter explaining a new way to make money. There would be a list of names and addresses. You would send $1., or any amount, to the top name, put your name on the bottom of the list, and just wait for the money to roll in. Lets say that the top guy mailed out 10 list to different people, then those people mailed out 10 list to other people, and so on down the line. You might look at this.
Your name in #10 10,Your name in #9 100,Your name in #8 1,000,Your name in #7 10,000 Your name in #6 100,000, Your name in#5 1,000,000 Your name in#4 10,000,000,Your name in#3 10,000,000 Your name in#2 1,000,000,000 and Your name in#1 10,000,000,000.
So by the time you name gets to the top of the list there should be something like 10,000,000,000 list out with your name at the top. Everyone on the globe should have at least one of these list, and if very few people got into this one you might still make a large chunk of $s, and there is no reason, as far as the Scam is concerned why you could not send out more than one list. Oh, did I mention that this is a Pyramid scheme and considered a kind of lottery, and so you might, just might, get a visit from the Postal Inspectors?
Then there were Electronic Bulletin Boards, and people posted those same list on Fido, or whatever was popular on that board. Then, when the Internet, thanks to Al Gore for inventing it, they started to post them on the USENETS, and suggested that you could put out literally thousands of them. They turned up everywhere, all of them suggesting that this was perfectly legal. It still wasn’t.
Then someone came up with the idea that what you should do is : everyone who sent you a dollar would be sent some kind of report, such as how the scheme worked. The main thing, they said, was that for each person who sent you money you should send them some kind of product. Maybe even a free e-book. After all there are plenty off e-books in the public domain, or you could even find some place that will let you download some of the classics and have reseller rights, so you are giving out a product.
I got one of these e-mails some years ago, and the guy included, as proof that it was legal, the 1-800 number for the Postal Inspectors office in Tamp, Fl. I called the number and was told that it was still illegal.
The last word I have gotten on this was that instead of using your name and address you put in your Pay Pal account I.D. and wait for your bank account to fill up… It seems, from what they have said, that a larger number of people are willing to ante up the money via Pay Pal than sending it via snail mail. Oh, I also understand that Pay Pal will delete the accounts of people they suspect of doing this, as it is STILL ILLEGAL but, how many people does that really stop. If its being illegal stopped people, then Pay Pal would not have to be on the look out.
The point here is that this is not a new idea, it was just updated to match the technology.
And, of course, there are the scams that are so old you would think everyone knew about them. The bank examiner who contacts an older person with a story about a dishonest teller, and how they need the customer to help them trap her. The bank examiner sends the customer into the bank to make a large withdrawal. Then the customer brings the money out to the bank examiner, or security agent, who gives her/him a receipt for the money. This will be used, along with the customers account receipt, to test if the teller is skimming money from the accounts. The examiner/agent says that as soon as his investigation is complete the money would be put back in her/his account…. The bank, when the customer asks, will not know anything about it, as the examiner/agent did not work for the bank and the money is gone. Almost every year the banks warn people about this scam, and still people fall for it…
This brings me to another, which in a way is an updated version of the other… You get an email about a security problem with your account… did you change the password, or is you account information correct.. It tells you that if you don’t correct it soon your account might be frozen, or eliminated… Ok look, they provided a link to your account, it goes to your bank’s login page, so all you have to do is login, verify the information, by entering it when asked, and you are done.. It is only later that you find money missing from your account. The problem is that any reputable bank, or other agencies, who tells you verify your information will tell you to go to the login page, they will not put a link on an email, and if they were to then the easiest thing would be to run you cursor over the link and see if it matches the login for your account. That is an old one, but people still fall for it…
And then there is the old “Bait and Switch“. Stores used to advertise really great buys. Lets say it is a washer dryer… Store X advertises a washer/dryer for $xxx.xx and when you get there they are sold out but, since you are there they will give you a good deal on another product that is only about $100 more. That is “Bait and Switch”, and is illegal…. They either did not have the product in the first place, or knew they would sell them all, so they had plenty of the other, which they would make more money on….
So what is the updated version of this.. I am going to use a large phone company as my example.. Lets say it is Vertigo Phone…. Vertigo sends you an email saying they have a great FiOS package for you.. you can get Phone, TV, and Internet at really high speeds by using their Fiber Optic package… They are even nice enough to give you a website that will set you up… Going to the Vertigo website is really simple.. selecting the service is really easy. Now you are ready to schedule a setup date and you notice that, in the three items of your bundle there is NO mention of the FiOS that you wanted.. Then you find out that the package you wanted was not available in your area.. It was just a “Bait and Switch”. I had gotten snail mail with these offers, and even though they sent it to my mailing/billing address they either were not bright enough to check my availability for this product, or they knew it was not available and wanted to B&S me.
I guess the message here is that even the companies with so called reputable names will try to Scam you, if you let them.
It is probably just me… but when I see some add that offers, say a hat, for free it seems that all I would have to do is tell them where to send the hat… Sure there might be a shipping fee, for the cost of sending the hat.
If I see an advertisement for a free hat, with the purchase of a vehicle, I understand that the price of the hat is the cost of the vehicle, and they could have written the ad to say something like”free vehicle with the purchase of a single hat”, and that would be just as truthful. That would, of course, make for a really expensive hat. They like to use the word “FREE” as it then seems that you are not paying anything for the hat, or whatever. More truthful would be to say “at no extra cost”. That doesn’t give the same impression though.
Then there is the offer of a free gift card, or maybe an iPod, iPad, or other expensive product, and all you have to do is answer a few question in their survey. So you click on it, and start the survey.
They ask a couple of simple questions, a survey that might be useful to somebody, and then maybe the have you pick out the product you want. That done you go to the real point of the thing, the survey, for real? There is usually a disclaimer that says something like “participation required”. What they mean is that when you are picking between all the wonderful things you might be interested in, or not, if you want the product you picked out then you must subscribe to several of their offerings. There are normally several different column, much like chinese food menus, from which you must pick a specified number of offers. That is a scam.
For those of you who actually read my articles: I thank you very much…
I love hearing from people who give me the idea that they have REALLY read my material.
On the other hand, there are those who write generic praise which, most likely, is a result of cut and paste and could refer to anything… I particularly liked the one that put a comment on my “About Me” page that said something along the lines of “this is a great idea, I never would have thought about it like that”.
While I look forward to your comments: if the comment does not indicate you have read the articles then I will DELETE it…
We had a recent close call with some scammers using Ebay Motors.
It started out with my brother, who lives in Colorado, trying to find a used Motorhome… he did, and this is what he found… a 2000 Fleetwood Jamboree. The idea was to have a vehicle that would allow him to visit us here in Florida. He has a number of dogs that would HAVE to come with him, as it would normally take several weeks to make the trip.
This all sounded good, and over the next several days he dealt with a Gianni Simone.. well here is a portion of the first email.
The Fleetwood is still available for sale. It’s a 2000 Fleetwood JAMBOREE RALLYE, 8 – Cyl., White, 29.5′ feet, 28,180 miles, automatic, single owner, extremely clean camper, locks and seats, sound system, clean title and no accidents. I just changed the generator oil and filter. All the maintenance have been performed to the Fleetwood dealer only. As for the engine oil, i always used Amsoil Premium 10W-40W, i know that it’s the best for my RV. No leaks from rain, no damage on the camper, ALL SYSTEMS 100% WORKING.
I’m the owner and the camper is paid off. My father worked at Fleetwood Motor Homes of California and had access to the employee store. Now the I’m located in Lake Havasu City, AZ and the RV is with me. The reason i’m selling it is that i need some money to buy a new house, we want to move in Phoenix. I just got promoted with my job and i need to move to my new office in Phoenix.
If you are interested and you have the funds available you can buy it on ebay by hitting Buy it Now button and complete the process. Also on ebay you will find more pictures and more details/specifications about the RV.
I’ll be able to arrange shipping if needed at my expenses, but i want to close the sale trough ebay to secure our deal, because it protects both buyer and seller.
It seemed to be a great deal, though he wanted $1,000 or $2000 upfront.. A deal was worked out to purchase the vehicle through the Ebay Vehicle Purchase Protection (VPP) plan.. That sounded good. The idea was that we would wire transfer the money to Payment must be submitted via Bank Wire Transfer to an eBay Financing Center Agent in charge of this transaction. Below is a portion of the instructions.
1. Contact your bank to make a money transfer to our eBay agent.
2. Make the payment with cash using our agent details as
3. E-mail us the following details from the payment receipt:
Name of bank sending payment
Date of transfer
Exact Amount Sent
4. Send us the copy of the payment receipt through fax at: 1 (408) 649-5222
* Once we
receive the payment confirmation, we will instruct the seller to start the
shipping. We will hold the payment details until you send us your confirmation
that you are satisfied with the product you received. As soon as we receive your
confirmation we will release the payment details to the
Once the funds been sent to this account the suller would then ship the product… and once my brother had looked at it, and accepted it, he would let ebay know, and they would relase the funds to the seller.. sounds like a good deal to me, and safe too.
On Tuesday Mom and I checked with my brother, and headed to Bank of America to send the funds. It was just like one of those movies. As they young lady at the bank was getting ready to send the funds out cell phone rang. When we were able to get in touch with my brother his first words were, “do not send the money, its a fraud”. It seems he had contacted Ebay and had been told it was NOT a valid sale… The young lady at the BoA was able to stop the transfer, and so the story pretty much ended on a good note….
Take this to heart… The scammers are getting more sophisticated all the time.. several of the email that my brother sent me looked, as far as I could tell, as if they had come from Ebay.
PS.. I have found that if you put the sellers Email address into google, firstname.lastname@example.org you can find at least 4 more cars that he has listed… There also seems to be another Email account connected to him, email@example.com but, I have not gotten any information about who that is either… As far as I know we have not gotten anymore communication from Gianni Simone about the aborted transaction so I would assume, there is that word, that, whoever he is, he has no defence.